Episode 37 - Building a Legacy: The Intersection of Faith, Family, and Community Service with Father Tim Prattas

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In this compelling episode of Your Estate Matters, Nicole and Greg sit down with Father Tim Prattas, Parish Priest at Sts. Nicholas and Dimitrios Greek Orthodox Community. Father Tim shares how a lifelong calling to the priesthood has shaped his views on responsibility, legacy, and the power of community.

How does faith influence the way we approach estate planning and service? What does it really mean to leave behind more than just financial assets? And how can Orthodox teachings help us navigate life’s biggest questions with grace and purpose?

Tune in for a thoughtful conversation at the crossroads of theology and practical life.

Nicole 00:00:02  Hello and welcome to Your Estate Matters with your hosts, my colleague Greg Brennand and myself, Nicole Garton of Heritage Trust.

Greg 00:00:09  Your Estate Matters is a podcast dedicated to everything estates, including building and preserving your legacy.

Nicole 00:00:16  If it's estate related, we'll be talking about it. We're having the conversations today that will help Canadians protect their families, their assets and their legacies tomorrow. With us today on Your estate Matters is Timoleon Prattas.

. Father Tim was born and raised in Toronto, Ontario. He has a bachelor's in theology from the Toronto Orthodox Theological Academy and a master's in divinity from Tyndale Seminary. He was ordained to the Holy Priesthood in 2014. In December 2014, he was appointed as parish priest of Saint Nicholas and Demetrios Greek Orthodox Church in East Vancouver. Father Tim is married to Presbyterian Sophia. Together they have two wonderful children.

Greg 00:01:11  Father Tim, thank you very much for being with us here today. And tell us about yourself on your journey to your current role as parish priest of Saint Nicholas and Demetrios Greek Orthodox Church in East Vancouver.

Father Tim 00:01:22  Well, it's wonderful to be here. Thank you very much for the invitation. My journey to being the parish priest is quite a long one. I have wanted to be a priest since I was three years old, and it's kind of the only thing that I ever wanted to do with that. You know that you can go anywhere in in Canada. That's how it is in the Greek Orthodox Church here. I was assigned to Saint Nicholas and Demetrius Church on December 1st, 2014, just a few months after being married and becoming a priest. But obviously that spans so many years. So with education. Obviously, I went to seminary. I did a master's in divinity with a specialization youth and family ministry. But the thing in the Orthodox Church is that married men can become priests, but priests can't get married. So I got married. I found my wife, Sophia. And after we got married, I became a priest. And then I was assigned here.

Nicole 00:02:19  So for our listeners unfamiliar with Orthodoxy, can you tell them a little bit about the faith?

Father Tim 00:02:24  So Orthodoxy is the original Christian church that Christ founded together with the apostles.

Father Tim 00:02:30  Orthodoxy literally means correct belief, Orthodoxy, a little bit of Greek for your listeners. And it is, again, the original church or worldwide church. There's even an Orthodox church in Antarctica if you go and visit. So even though we say that it's a Greek Orthodox church in Canada, the United States, Australia, stuff like that, it's more that it's an Orthodox church that happens to speak this language as a first language. When the Greek Orthodox Church was founded in North America very much, it was because people came from Greece, from Cyprus, from other parts of the world, and they came, emigrated here. And that was the original language. Slowly but surely, as you can see that more people, both indigenous communities, Canadians just in general, now have become more orthodox with a huge upswing actually in the past few years. You really see that, you know that we're an Orthodox church that speaks Greek but a lot of English, and it is something that's really unique to us now, is that in our parish that we say the Lord's Prayer in five different languages every Sunday because there are, again, so many when we have parishioners from Bahrain, from the Philippines, from mainland China, from Taiwan, from all these different places.

Father Tim 00:03:49  And it's just it's wonderful to see that eclectic orthodoxy in action here in Vancouver.

Greg 00:03:56  Just saying. So we understand that you wanted to be a priest since you were a child. What sparked the desire?

Father Tim 00:04:03  You know, it's I think it's many different things. One thing is that my mom's uncle is a priest in Greece, and I really looked up to him as a kid. But again, that wouldn't have happened at three years old. At three years old. It was, I guess, you know, kids always are, you know, they want to become policemen, firemen and stuff like that. For some reason, I was always just drawn to church. I lived with my grandfather and my grandmother as well. My paternal grandparents, and they were always very close to church, and I just felt so at home when I was there. And that's why in the beginning it was kind of almost shameful, right? Because you don't want to necessarily say, oh, I want to be something that everybody else doesn't.

Father Tim 00:04:45  And then something happened to me at school. It was actually a medical emergency that happened to me in school. And then I was like, you know what? If everybody saw me like this. Well, I don't care what everybody thinks. I'm just gonna be myself. And I was saying that. And I should have said it earlier, too, because all the boys came to me for dating advice for some reason. And all the girls were like, you know, we think that it's cute that you're living your dream. So I guess it's a little bit of, you know, family. It's a little bit of that's always how it's been. But the overarching reason is God has given me so much throughout my life. This is the smallest way that I can give back to him.

Nicole 00:05:24  So say somebody wants to become an Orthodox priest, what is the process? What do you need to do to achieve that goal.

Father Tim 00:05:31  So in the beginning I guess it would be obviously going to church to attend the services to kind of even shadow a priest for a little bit and to see if this life really is for you, you would have to go to seminary.

Father Tim 00:05:46  There's the Toronto Orthodox Theological Academy for us here in Canada, before you would have to go to New York or to Boston where there's there are seminaries there. So obviously the education part is important. It's not just any person can become a priest. And then for people like myself, you have to get married before you become a priest. Kind of like we said before, if you want to be a celibate priest, then that's fine. And the thing with being married as well, your wife actually needs to sign a contract that says that she agrees to become a priest's wife, a priest, and can move anywhere in in Canada. So that signing ceremony is always very fun for a lot of priests. And then after that, the archbishop here in Canada, for example, will ordain you, and then we'll assign you a parish. So education, the marriage and then your assignment.

Greg 00:06:39  What does a typical week look like for you as a parish priest?

Father Tim 00:06:44  A lot of people are like, you just work on Sundays.

Father Tim 00:06:46  And I even got that once my third week in Vancouver. It was kind of funny from someone. I. I was like, oh, really? Because everybody always sees us on Sunday morning. Usually it's office hours because, you know, everyone loves paperwork, I guess, right? So you got to be able to take care of that. When people call for hospital visits, you have to be available 24 over seven. Basically. That's why I never shut my cell phone off. So, if they call because someone is sick, either, you know, for last rights or for any other reason, you got to go to the hospital. There are some times during the year that there are evening services, a lot of catechism for people that want to become more orthodox so that they can know what they believe and not simply just, you know, hey, let's baptize you kind of thing. There's also marriage prep. That's something that we're going to be starting in our parish very soon, actually. Marriage, marriage class, baptism classes for people that are going to become godparents.

Father Tim 00:07:42  So, you know, all of these things, teaching in Greek school, that's something new that, since our community has a Greek school program. Why should someone else teach it when they have a priest to be able to teach at least the religion part of it? Teach the Greek Orthodox faith. So stuff like that. And to be able to reach out to people who are a shut ins and who need, you know, that extra help or people that have lost someone. And obviously baptisms, weddings, funerals. So it's a very fluid schedule. Somewhere in there we do manage to take vacation. But even with vacation, you need to find your own replacement. And if you don't find your replacement, you can't really take vacation. So I'm looking for one more week so that hopefully I can go to Greece this summer.

Nicole 00:08:24  So there's cataclysmic shifts in society where there's religious groups. There's secularization, certainly of the West. What role do you see Orthodoxy has in, in our Western societies, increasingly secular?

Father Tim 00:08:41  So orthodoxy in North America at least, has always been quite small and growing.

Father Tim 00:08:48  Slowly but surely. And I think, you know, with that, I always think back to this verse in the Bible that Jesus says, you know, don't be afraid, small flock. So, you know, we're a small flock that is getting bigger at the same time. It's a witness for the truth of the gospel. Be it here in Western countries or in countries where Orthodoxy is, you know, the original faith or the predominant faith at least. And I think the rule of Orthodoxy is to follow the great commandment to love God with all your being and love your neighbor as yourself. Because if the Orthodox Church says that we are the truth and that's it, but we simply just stick to dogmatic and we don't show it by loving our neighbor, then we are not doing justice to the gospel. So one of the things that we started very early on was a partnership with the Burnaby Society to End ten homelessness. So we go once a month, we make a bunch of Greek food, and we go and feed people that are a little down on their luck.

Father Tim 00:09:51  It's more than just simply giving a meal. It's trying to give hope, trying to tell people that you know, you're made in the image of God and that we care for you. So to be able to show the gospel with our actions and not simply just with words and the examples of all the saints throughout the centuries that have that have existed in the, in the Orthodox Church. So, again, to preach the gospel, to use words, to use actions.

Nicole 00:10:22  So in that community volunteering, can you tell our listeners what the ultimate sort of commandment of God is in Matthew, which is love God and your neighbor like yourself? What does that mean in practice?

Father Tim 00:10:36  What does that mean in practice? Okay, so to love God, number one, we have to see at church. We want to see you at church. We want to for us to be able to worship together the God that loves us and that we can be able to connect in this, you know, sacramental way. But a 20th century priest, Father Alexander Schumann, says that you also have to live the liturgy after the liturgy.

Father Tim 00:10:57  So to love your neighbor as yourself again is not simply just for the homeless, let's say. Right, which is a very important part, but it's everyone to be able to reach out to those maybe who have no one. There are a lot of people actually inside of my parish that they've said that they've left all of their family back at home, and they have and they have no one. And then they come to church and they feel this sense of belonging. You know, the church's primary goal, I wouldn't say, is belonging. And yet it kind of is because we all belong in the kingdom. And that's why to be able to provide that connection with the other, so, you know, to love your neighbor as yourself is to be able to again, to give back to those who are in need in any kind of way. When a family comes to me, for example, and they say that, you know, their kid is depressed and they want to be able to, you know, help their kid.

Father Tim 00:11:48  It's me in one sphere and, you know, professionals in another sphere. We kind of intersect somewhere, right? But for me to be able to take care of that person's, you know, spiritual life and then to be able to tell them that, yeah, they're worth it. They're in the image of God, and that we shouldn't simply just discount them just because of a small bump in the road. It doesn't matter how small or large it might be. So, you know, the churches is there to show God's love, not simply in a book smarts kind of way. It's to do it in a real practical kind of way. It's there for community because the church is a community. It's a community of persons, both the living and those who have passed away, most especially the saints, who are the examples, like our big brothers and sisters, examples of faith, who, you know, they even shed their blood for the truth. And obviously the head of the church, who is Christ who loved us so much that he.

Father Tim 00:12:44  That he died for us and rose from the dead. So that when we pass away on this earth that we believe as Orthodox Christians, that if we are united with God and neighbor, that we'll have that same communion with him in the next life.

Greg 00:12:56  How do you guide others in developing a rich prayer life and a connection with God?

Father Tim 00:13:03  So something like that in the Orthodox Church, it's always, again, a community of persons. It's not a very, you know, it's not me and Jesus and that's it. I know that it might be like that in other Christian confessions. And they have obviously, their theological reasons for doing that for us. Again, Saint Anthony the Great, he has a he has a wonderful saying. He says, our life and death is with our neighbor. And, you know, taking that into account. We sit back and we say, okay, if you want to join the Orthodox Church, one of the things you have to do is to come to corporate worship, to be able to come together to see your brother and sister in Christ and to be able to unite in a very real way, like something that you can see.

Father Tim 00:13:42  And then after that, a rich prayer life does not simply stop when we exit church, and then it's like, okay, I'll see you next week. Kind of like a coat that we hang up and stuff like that. But, you know, it continues. And I would say that there are three main things that I would tell people if they want to have a rich prayer life. One is Thanksgiving. I think too many times as a society, too, we're not thankful for the things that we have. You know, we have we have health care and we complain about it, let's say. Right. Or we say, you know, the doctor should have been faster or I should have had a faster appointment or whatever. We actually have it. There are places in the world that don't have anything. So, you know, we should thank God that we have this and that. We have so many other things that are fingertips, so to speak. So Thanksgiving, I would say, is number one.

Father Tim 00:14:26  Number two is to have a sense of repentance that I want to change my mind. It's not remorse because remorse is just I feel bad about something, but I do it again. Right? You know it's, I got caught robbing the bank, but I do it again. No, that's, You know, that's what Judas actually felt. And, you know, he didn't say I'm sorry for anything, so. But to have repentance is to is to say I'm. I'm sorry to God and to your neighbor and to know that, yeah, you're not perfect. Again, a society that says that truth is very subjective. We would say it's very objective and God is truth. So if we fall short from truth that we should be able to change our minds, knowing that God loves us and that he's going to forgive us, so that on a daily basis that we should be able to ask for forgiveness, and then finally that we should ask God and, you know, petition God, if you will, for things not in a God.

Father Tim 00:15:19  Please, I love you. Grant me that Lamborghini that I really love and that I saw. Right? Because that's a ridiculous prayer. That's, you know, very self-serving. But I would say to ask for peace in the world, which is something that will be a prayer, I think, until you know that asteroid hits the Earth, or the end of the world, or whatever you want to believe and your listeners want to believe. but, you know, to be able to pray for that and for it to be very selfless and then to leave yourself last with kind of a line in the end to say, just as Christ says to the father right before he's arrested, not as I will, but as you will. The moment that it's like that and that you leave your soul to God and you say, here I am, Lord, save me and save those who are around me. Thank you for the people that I have inside my life. Be it the people that I love the most.

Father Tim 00:16:12  To the people that again, the janitor that cleans up after me. The person that you know is down the street that's praying for me and stuff like that, that I. That I don't even know. Then it's a it's a holistic approach to prayer rather than something that the Orthodox Church remembers. Actually, right before lent starts the triathlon, as it's called, where it's the parable of the publican and the Pharisee, and how the Pharisee is supposed to be the example of religious truth. Right? He's supposed to know the law. And what does he say? Thank you God that I'm not like other people and I'm not like, you know, an extortion or a murder or like this guy over there, right? That type of prayer is not pleasing to God. And one final thought, I guess, is, you know, we want to be like Abel in the Old Testament, how he offered to God the best of what he had. He had the, the, the first fruits, and he gave that to God, whereas his brother Cain, just gave whatever.

Father Tim 00:17:08  We don't want to give whatever to God. We don't want to give just, you know, the things that are left over. We want to give him the best. And that's why God deserves the best.

Nicole 00:17:16  So, Father Tim, as an Orthodox priest, what does legacy mean to you?

Father Tim 00:17:20  Okay, so I had to look this up. I will actually confess to you because it's, I think one of those things that we all take for granted, right? That legacy, your will, your wishes are just going to be known. Right. And that's something that I encourage people whenever I see them before they end up at the hospital. And even when they do end up at the hospital, you know, you should get your will done so that people can know what your wishes are. So legacy for me, when I was looking this up and, and in the process of, hopefully starting my own will, is that, you know, nothing is nothing is yours. You're a steward of what you have for a time.

Father Tim 00:17:56  You know, one day it'll be mine, the next day it'll be the other person's, and it'll really be no one's in the end, right? You teach your kids as much as you can, obviously, to love each other and to and to have that sense of stewardship for, you know, everyone. And obviously you're going to take care of them as well in whatever way each person sees fit. But at the same time that you should also take care of your faith community because you know, the lights don't turn on and the doors don't open. If we don't take care of them, you know, the federal government isn't going to say you don't get to pay taxes. Right. And in this way, when you do leave a legacy, It shouldn't simply just be. I would say for family, but it should be, again, more holistic. Just like when you were inside the church that everything was very holistic, that you do remember your faith community, that you remember maybe a charity that really spoke to you and that you want to be able to give back so that your memory is preserved in a type of way that is honorable both to you and to your descendants.

Father Tim 00:18:58  I was thinking about this verse, actually, that's in the marriage service and it says, May you see your children's children round about your table. It's a psalm from the Old Testament, you know, how are your children's children going to see you around your table, or are they going to see you as simply a grumpy old person that you know wants to take all the money with them? And then, you know, the spouse puts the check inside the casket or the coffin before they go. Like, is that the memory that you really want to leave, or is it that I was, you know, God gave me these gifts. Obviously, I was thankful to him. I, you know, I took the vacation. That's fine. Right? Like not taking a vacation is not necessarily sinful, right. but the moment that we give back and that, you know, our kids, grandkids and that others in society and our faith communities that did help us in one way or another are preserved, you know, that's what legacy means to me.

Father Tim 00:19:50  And I guess I would kind of turn that word instead of legacy to responsibility.

Greg 00:19:56  So how has your perspective on legacy changed since becoming a priest? So you've just talked about what currently it is in your mind. But when you started, what did you think it was and what's the.

Father Tim 00:20:09  When I started, I would probably say that things will just take care of themselves. I think it's a classic response for a lot of people, right? For some strange way that the government will just kind of step in and make sure that everything is right, becoming a priest and having to do many, many funerals, many, many visits to the hospital, giving a last rites and saying prayers for people from the one stillborn that I had to do to the person who was 102 is the oldest. That really changed my outlook on legacy, and that's why I say the word responsibility rather than simply legacy, because we should all be responsible for, again, our faith communities, for our families, for those who we want to be able to show that love in action.

Father Tim 00:21:02  Because love with words is dead, love with actions is alive, and that keeps the memory alive of a person forever. In the Orthodox tradition, they have something that's called a mockery, a mercy meal. So at the end of the funeral service and the burial service, you would go back to the church or you would go to a restaurant or something like that, and you would have a big meal. And the thing is, it's not the family necessarily thanking you. It's the family doing it on behalf of the person who passed away. And it's like they're feeding you for one final time. So it's a you know, it's a beautiful thing that I would say fits into legacy as much as a will does as much as something else. So people that just sit back and, you know, they're very sentimental about things. But, you know, let the legal stuff let the legal people deal with it. No. You know, oh, they're going to deal with it, but they're going to make sure that they bring their, you know.

Father Tim 00:22:01  You got to bring your check book with you. this is something that we can deal with earlier, be more responsible and for our wishes truly to be known rather than at the last minute.

Nicole 00:22:12  That's beautiful. So if somebody was interested in further exploring their faith and particularly orthodoxy, what are your thoughts on how they can pursue that?

Father Tim 00:22:22  So if you want to take a look at your individual faith. I won't speak for Orthodox in the beginning. If you want to take a look at your specific faith, go to your go to the faith community that you belong to and just talk to the people that are in charge. I guess that's something for Orthodox people as well, right? You know what you see on the internet? Yeah, I'll say it for both. What you see on the internet is sometimes a false reality, because we can see what AI does right now and putting words in people's mouths and stuff like that. And again, it's very, very good at doing that. I think that if you want to know what a faith community believes, what they do, you have to follow Jesus words, or rather, the words of the apostle that Philip and Nathaniel and it's, you know, come and see.

Father Tim 00:23:07  So if it's come and see, show up for an Orthodox church again. Our Orthodox church is open on Sundays, Monday to Friday, during business hours and stuff like that. You show up, you say, I want an appointment with the priest, or if you are kind of timid and you don't want to show up or it's too far away if you live an hour or two hours away. Email the priest, email the pastor, the whomever is in charge again of the of the of the community of faith. And you say, hey, listen, I'm interested. Let's zoom chat as I'm actually going to do this evening with a couple about that very reason. And then you got to show up and to be able to learn obviously, and not just go in a blindly, because whenever you go in blindly, maybe you won't like, you know, that particular faith community stands for. So catechism is important. Living your faith is important. Being present is important because again, you know, just like God loves a cheerful giver, God loves a person who is truly present.

Father Tim 00:24:08  Because, you know, there's a in the Gospel of Matthew how it says that I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink. I was sick and in prison and you visited me. I was a stranger and you welcomed me. Those things Christ is talking about, and he's saying about things that people did rather than, oh, I'll do it tomorrow. There's a story that I heard about how you know the devil. He had a meeting with all the demons. This isn't real. This is just like a parable. And how, you know, they said, what are ways that we can take Christians away from believing in the truth? And, you know, they had all these ideas, and the last one had the best one. He's like, I should tell them they should go to church, that they should believe, that they should forgive, that they should give, and they should do whatever. But to do it tomorrow, and then they'll wake up the next day and then do it tomorrow, do it tomorrow, do it tomorrow, and you know, and then they'll die.

Father Tim 00:24:58  And they will never have done it because it'll always be tomorrow. Instead of I want it done now. So for anyone that's listening and you are interested in Orthodoxy or any other faith, go do it now. Finish listening to this podcast. Make sure that you bookmark it because it's an amazing podcast. I've heard plenty of them and go now and don't rely on internet religion necessarily to tell you truth. Go talk to a living, breathing person and make your decision about that particular faith.

Nicole 00:25:30  So, Father Tim, we're living in a chaotic timer. There's incredible division. And Jesus preached love your neighbor like yourself and help the poor. And the meek shall inherit the earth. But it seems like people that don't ascribe to those values seem to be in positions of prominence and power. What are your thoughts about how someone navigates this landscape with hope?

Father Tim 00:25:58  Okay, so Christians in the first century were alive in a time that sees her didn't love them right? They were seen as people that were enemies of the state.

Father Tim 00:26:11  They were killed in various different ways. And again, one just needs to take a look at the lives of the saints of the first three centuries to be able to see the various different ways that they killed even, you know, little children to, to, you know, adults and people that were senior citizens. But the church always sat back and they had this hope in Christ that the Lord always has the last word, if you will, and that they prayed for, you know, a peaceful and tranquil life, and even for the health of those who are persecuting them. So being a Christian is really hard. No one ever said being a Christian is easy, because it's simple to be able to say again, in the Gospel of Luke, Jesus says, what good is it if you simply love those who love you? For even sinners do the same, but love your enemies and bless those who curse you, and you shall be called, you know, sons of the Most High. So being a Christian is difficult.

Father Tim 00:27:13  And these people you know, that have a Prominence and power and stuff like that. Maybe it's more known to us right now just because of social media. And you know, we don't need to load up a 386 anymore, right? Like, it's all in our in our hands that we can access an array of opinions. We're called to love them. Simple and very, very hard. And that process of loving someone is just like for a husband and a wife, that it takes a while to be able to love that person, and then how that love changes throughout one's life in the same way, you know, that agape, that philia, that that you know, that friendship or that you know, that love that you have for the other person will change. So, you know, for people that have prominence and that are doing, you know, some very interesting things. What good would it be for us to curse them? Or what good would come about if we ask God to bless them.

Father Tim 00:28:16  To grant them, you know, health, safety, salvation that he, you know, illumines their hearts and that if they end up doing things that are really, really bad, that it's like, you know what? I can't go to sleep at night knowing that I want this person to go to hell. Because if we think of hell as a as a place, fine. But if you think of it as a state of being, or there's a desert father that says that the image of hell is your back to all of creation. You know, if I put during the, you know, Covid lockdowns and stuff like that, we almost went, you know, bananas, right? Because we couldn't we weren't able to see pretty much anybody for a while, you know, can you imagine that for the rest of time? You know, and just like we wouldn't want that, why would you ever want that for someone that you disagree with politically, religiously or any other way? So, you know, you pray for them and maybe God will soften their heart.

Father Tim 00:29:13  God always tries to do that. It's the person that doesn't choose to accept it. You know, Pharaoh's heart is hardened not just because God wants Pharaoh to hate the Israelites and Moses. It's because God gives him a choice. He gives him free will. So use your free will correctly, I would say to anyone out there. And if you use it correctly, you know, as I think it's Saint Silwan the other night, who says, you know, let evil be. Just let it be. And let God sort that out. Let us love without measure, and then we will gain in the end, because that blessing will come to us. You know that that that feeling of, you know what I did, what I could. These guys here, what they do. God help them. But my peace of mind, my love to God and neighbor, will not be diminished just because one person or a group of people decide that they want to turn the world upside down.

Greg 00:30:17  Well, there are too many final thoughts for our listeners.

Father Tim 00:30:20  Because I know that it's Your Estate Matters. Go do your wills, people. Okay. you know, for Orthodoxy, we were, like a best kept secret. And we wanted to be able. You know, in the 70s, the 80s, the 90s, even in the 2000. Right. It was very, very sheltered. right now, again, in our parish and our community that we're finding so many different people. Go explore your faith community. Go and seek truth. Don't simply wait, you know, until you reach a certain age and think that you know you can connect with God, then you can do it right now if you have someone. And again, since the greatest commandment is to love God with all your being, I'm saying the first part first, you know, go and have that connection, that communion with God. But love your neighbor as yourself. If you're upset with your brother, your sister with someone inside your family and your friends. I'm not saying that you're going to, you know, go out for dinner and you're going to hug and kiss and stuff like that, but go and talk with them.

Father Tim 00:31:20  Pray for them. Be together with them. Because you know these moments, they are fleeting. God only knows when he'll when he'll take us. Pray for those who persecute you. Love those who love you. Love those who hate you. Pray for the world, for the peace in the world. And hopefully you'll pray for me. And I will definitely be praying for you guys and for your listeners.

Nicole 00:31:43  Thank you so much, Father Tim. How can listeners find you.

Father Tim 00:31:46  If you want to show up at church? My parish is Saint Nicholas and Demetrius Greek Orthodox Church, 4541 Boundary Road in East Vancouver. You can reach me by going to our website goeastvan.ca. You can email me at prattas@gmail.com. Or you know, again, come to church and come and see. I would love to, Love to see you. And, and to get your feedback about this, about this podcast.

Greg 00:32:15  So thank you very much, Father Tim.

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